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COULD CHEMICAL EVOLUTION PRODUCE DNA?

COULD CHEMICAL EVOLUTION PRODUCE DNA?

August 18, 2024

Could chemical evolution produce DNA?

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Creating life in a test-tube would not demonstrate that life could have made itself without intelligent input.

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An inquirer asks about recent hype concerning claims that DNA building blocks could be produced by random, undirected chemistry. Ph.D. chemist Dr Jonathan Sarfati responds with both general advice about chemical evolution claims, and some specifics about this latest one.

Erin C. writes:

These atheists are at it again. They think they have discovered a new route to a Godless abiogenesis.

Please show a good refutation of it. [Link deleted as per feedback rules.]

Thanks

Dr Sarfati replies:

Dear Erin

Thank you for writing to CMI.

As a rule, we can’t normally grant requests to respond to articles or YouTube videos online, otherwise we would have no time for anything else!

But as it turns out, CMI scientists had already come across this paper and discussed it informally. Note that every ostensibly new chemical evolution paper is a tacit admission that other scenarios don’t work. We have an article advising how we should assess any new paper.1 But let’s look at this latest one anyway.

“The essential feature of the new pathway, as Trapp explains, is that the sugar is not linked to the base in a single step. Instead, it is built up on the preformed base by a short sequence of reaction steps involving simple organic molecules such as acetaldehyde and glyceraldehyde.”2,3

Every ostensibly new chemical evolution paper is a tacit admission that other scenarios don’t work.

That is, they did not synthesise any of the four DNA bases, but presupposed them. Not surprising, since there is no good prebiotic route to cytosine especially, and the others are unstable. And how nice that they have used pure, uncontaminated reagents to make the sugars, instead of the diluted and grossly contaminated gunk that results from Miller–Urey-type experiments. We have long known about formose reaction (or Butlerov reaction, after eminent 19th-century Russian chemist Alexander Mikhaylovich Butlerov) to make sugars from simple aldehydes in alkaline conditions. But to get useful amounts, we must stop this reaction at just the right time, otherwise the Cannizzaro reaction and caramelization would destroy them.4So after finding a chemical pathway for adding a (simple) sugar moiety to an existing nucleotide, what happens next? How do we take this product and polymerize it?

So after finding a chemical pathway for adding a (simple) sugar moiety to an existing nucleotide, what happens next? How do we take this product and polymerize it (to make some actual DNA)? How do they make sure that the added sugars are homochiral? After that, how does random chemistry add information (in thermodynamic terms, reduce configurational entropy)? How did they do all this before DNA breaks down, given its known instability? Note that RNA is even more unstable, which is really saying a lot, thanks to the extra hydroxy group on the ribose.

It would take far more than this paper even to make a small dent in our overview paper on chemical evolution,5 for example. In short, the claims are hyped to the hilt.

First published: 29 June 2019
Re-featured on homepage: 17 August 2024

References and notes

  1. Doyle, S., Reading ‘origin of life’ research: How to read the secular literature on chemical evolution (i.e. ‘abiogenesis’) critically, creation.com/origin-of-life-research, 12 Sep 2017. Return to text.
  2. Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München, Origin of life: A prebiotic route to DNA, sciencedaily.com, 18 Jun 2019. Return to text.
  3. Original paper: Trapp, O., Teichert, J., and Kruse, F., Direct prebiotic pathway to DNA Nucleosides, Angewandte Chemie [Applied Chemistry] Int. Edn, 26 May 2019 | doi:10.1002/anie.201903400. Return to text.
  4. Tour, J., The Mystery of the Origin of Life, youtube.com, 18 Mar 2019, at 16:31. Dr Tour is a leading synthetic organic chemist and nanotechnologist as well as a Messianic Jew, but not a biblical (‘young earth’) creationist. See also Bergman, J., James Tour—leading scientist and Darwin skeptic, J. Creation 26(2):70–72, 2012; creation.com/james-tour-darwin-skeptic. Return to text.
  5. Batten, D., Origin of life: An explanation of what is needed for abiogenesis (or biopoiesis), creation.com/origin-of-life, 17 May 2018. Return to text.

Dr Jonathan Sarfati’s amazing biography is here:

https://creation.com/dr-jonathan-sarfati

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2 thoughts on “COULD CHEMICAL EVOLUTION PRODUCE DNA?”

  1. Paul Archer says:
    August 19, 2024 at 5:57 pm

    It has to be this way unfortunately, but the answer provided by Dr Sarfati is way too complex for the average layman to take on board as a response to any atheist/ evolutionist.
    I’m content to know that parts of the DNA structure (I’m told) have “irreducible complexity”…meaning (for me) that they HAD to be created…not evolved.

    1. Chugley Chimp says:
      August 19, 2024 at 10:33 pm

      Succinctly put Paul – this monkey agrees – keep it simple stupid!

      Chugley

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